Climbing sling lengths reddit I recently bought a cordelette so I rarely use the 10 foot webbing anymore but they were handy if anchors were set back slightly and a double length sling wasn't enough. Rear sling attachment point should be on the outside (facing away from your body) of the buttstock. I like the space that it frees up on the harness, and also the added location to grab a sling when needed. What is the best way to adjust that long sling to be the perfect length so that I can comfortably go into the anchor direct? 16 votes, 22 comments. Becca and I climbed a bunch of Smith Rock classics in 8 hours! Just pure psyche and climbing:. I just recently got one. All real life cases are somewhere in between. Pad the tree and use it as a monolith. Is there any reason that I shouldn’t just double up the sling to make it 2 feet instead of 4 or is this dangerous for any reason? Sport; I like fat slings (to grab on to and doesn't twist), a nice gate action (some are too stiff, some too loose), favorite gate type for the rope side is a banana-shaped wire (nice and wide so the biner doesn't rotate instead of the rope clipping in) and fat carabiners that last. eg. 21 votes, 15 comments. I am a new recreational climber climbing MRS. I have a big background in backpacking and long hikes. -one sewn sling, double shoulder length (120 cm), to make a sliding x/equallete. it is situation dependent. Came up with this idea for a harness using a 120cm sling. 7mm is fine. If you are Two Point Ice Screw Anchors - 10mm Dyneema Sling setup as a quad Glacier Travel Prussics - 6mm Nylon (Anything thicker won't bite well on the rope generally) 24" Picket - 10mm Dyneema Sling 120cm in length girth hitched Personally, I find the feature to be useless. Advertisement Coins. keeps them from snagging the gear in the bag or making huge rat's nests. I like it for cleaning a sport route, setting up a top rope anchor, and starting a rappel. Try to sling just above a crotch where limbs split, so the sling stays put. The effective length of dynamic rope to absorb the energy of a fall is just the bit from the last pro to the climber. This version has 2 arms, one is a fixed length and designed to be used to extend your rappel (though you can use it as an anchor as well), and the other arm is longer with an ascender type The home of Climbing on reddit. I have both, I Wild Country seems to be marketing that sling as "the Cordelette" as in a name for that product. Also, if you are any heavier-set than me a 120cm sling might not be long enough. In sport climbing you kinda know what you need on the ground. for cams, draws, and anything else) after 7-10 years maximum, regardless of wear and tear (and of course earlier if damaged). 8mm 60m dynamic climbing rope and a 7mm 65m static tag line: Thread tag line through anchor Join tag line and climbing rope with EDK Tie stopper knots at ends Length of sling? position of stitched section? Previous use of sling The mass has multiple degrees of freedom (ie it can swing, not just fall straight down). r/climbing A chip A close button. If you want to know more about the ethics involved in climbing in the birthplace of free climbing, there is a good write-up on thecrag. Additionally, I have seen some say that prusiks should be 5-6' in length and other say you should always have at least one prusik that is 10-11' in length. At this point the rope is usually very fluffy, stiff and often contains a core shot somewhere in the middle of the rope. Then the prussik self tends against the device dropping you to the end of your rope. Just curious. I have nine 60cm alpine draws, two 120cm slings for roofs, and one 240cm sling for anchors (I have a cordelette as well for Slings are an invaluable piece of equipment for the traditional and multi-pitch climber. The length is up to you. And I'll have a prussik backup onto the rope below the belay/rappel device, so Just wondering how many Alpine Draws, Quick Draws, and Single-Biner slings you guys carry for normal single pitch cragging? I normally have 5 single length alpines, 1 double length alpine, and one single length alpine with lockers on my harness - no empty or single biner slings or QDs. You'll want the extra width for friction and to protect the tree. Right, I referred to those as slings because they’re technically a sling with a few stitches along it’s length, but they’re indeed not for falling on directly. How many cams and alpine qd depends on how hard the climb would be, but general scrambling with some small pitch climbing around 4 cams and 6 qd, but I've Friends which I can extend so the qd is only for nut placement and The home of Climbing on reddit. The slings In a pinch, you can always put two single length slings together. Also take all your 60cm slings also known as "double length slings" and make alpine draws with them and bring those in lieu of regular draws. All that being said, since many people use cord to resling their old nuts, cams, hexes I would do some research, but you will be fine. Read “Climbing Anchors” by John long. Personally, I don't like climbing with a tether. 8mm (70m) The slings doubled up are stronger yes. However, I don't use cord for this very much, I generally will just use a sling and a klemheist. My standard draw arsenal is 6 alpine draws, 5 single length and 2 double lengths over my shoulder. Then I take my double lengths, fold in half, and then overhand them all together. Get app Get the Reddit I like to keep a few loops of 6mm cord made from 5 ft cuts so that ends up being the same length as a shoulder length sling (aka "single runner," depending on where ur from). I've started carrying a giant loop of Dyneema it's like 4x length sling basically. But 99 times out of 100 I'll Double-length slings can be useful for equalizing anchors if the situation warrants, and are the perfect length to use as personal tether to a climbing or rappel anchor if you do not use a personal anchor system instead. The home of Climbing on You could get by without the 2 extra single lengths and see how you get on, but if you're getting into multis then I highly recommend having the two double length slings for sure. Those cam placements are surely jankier than the huge trees next to them. You already have everything you need with the single piece of cord without introducing additional gear. You can absolutely do all of that with a couple of long slings, but I like the easy length adjustability. Also slings tend to last quite a long time - I have had mine for at least a thousand pitches of climbing and they are holding up. Clove/8/Bowline/etc. The difference in service between Metolius and BD is huge. The weakest link is the protection(Cam, nut, whatever) you put into the wall. I use a double overhand based on an a certified alpine guide a took a course with, but I recommend starting out with a double-fisherman to tie them together (sometimes I use a triple depending on my state of mind, and the founder of Bluewater ropes tells me he always I got 120cm slings because that’s about 4 feet so I assumed that’s the length I wanted. Get 20-30' of climbing spec 7mm static line and you then tie the thing into a loop with a double or triple fishermans bend. Slings are static so a factor two is going to be disastrous. My standard extension is a 60cm sling girth hitched to my hard points and knotted midway. With a 20' cordelette anchor, thats a lot of distance to displace force. Doubling it up would make it too short. I had the slings on a few of my older cams replaced recently. I have only ever seen 5-6' prusiks used as a 3rd hand while abseiling or rappelling. Yeh it's fine, I just girth hitch one through my tie-in loop with a carabiner the other end. What length and thickness of static rope is a good starting point to build an anchor? I was thinking maybe 10m (33ft) and 11mm as it it might be rubbing up against things. This has generally been sufficient for the multi-pitch routes I've done. It just tends to get in the way. Double-length slings fit perfectly over the shoulder without doubling, and so are suitable to rack gear on as well. By the time you find a reason to dislike one or the other, you are probably really asking for a change materials (eg soft headed aliens) or Picking Climbing Slings, Cord and Webbing. Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. I only use it for static protection though, I would never use a sling as a PAS if I wanted to work on a particular section of a climb off belay, for example - although it would probably hold, other systems transfer much less energy to the last point of security, such as a PAS made from dynamic rope. As others have said. I learned on a Blake's hitch, moved the Blake's to a split tail and recently got my hands on a Zigzag. the knot might snag. They are lighter, rack better and are easier to extend. Get a 100ft static 8mm line. It is maybe slightly bulky, but I haven't found it to be an issue. The extension is marginal, nothing an alpine draw can't do better. Once you are confident with your placements and the spacing between them, attempt the climb with the gear pre-placed - essentially a sport route. 6 million pounds. Work towards doing the climb while placing the gear! The home of Climbing on reddit. I think swapping the adjust for a grillon would set me down a few inches lower in itself, and when we're hanging panels over head it really pays to be in just the The home of Climbing on reddit. Reply The home of Climbing on reddit. reReddit: Top The single-length sling is, technically, non-redundant, but so is the belay loop, rappel device and biner, and rope, and the 22kn sling is wild overkill for the forces involved in the rappel. Rope is dynamic but a factor two on a short length is still going to be uncomfortable. Get app Get the comfortable and full strength so that you’ll always have one last shoulder length sling to whip out if you run out of runners to extend a crucial piece, or Keeps the front 4 loops clear for cams/nuts and slings while I climb. I know some people who have much shorter leashes, and if you're primarily sport climbing it's probably better. Brooke talked to Katie not a great idea. You may also need to do a modified girth hitch with 3-4 wraps, kind of like a prussik. But the weakest point in your safety system will fail first. A larks head knot around the trunk immediately above a branch is quick and easy, then clip to your belay loop with a locker. Re-racking them is an extra step that can take a second or two, and is also a pain in the ass for the follower. Metolius cleaned, lubed and added new slings for $5/cam. I personally prefer a quad length 10cm sling over my cordelette 95% of the time for building anchors because it The rope should be fine unless you are climbing the full length of the rope and don't have an extra length to make the anchor. These uses tend to not be very rough on slings. IMO fancy carabiners dont really matter much for trad climbing and especially sling draws. On a trad route onsight part of the fun is to discover what gear you need and managing the rope drag is part of the equation. You can make each end a different length to make rappelling easier. Long enough to build and anchor and tie a knot in so you can clip two bolts when using as a The slings they had were these specialty endless slings made of Kevlar in some fancy higher denier nylon. but imo, should not be used to clip in for safety on a multipitch. If you are single pitch climbing, it's probably fine, but multipitch climbing with a full double rack, draws, anchor material, atc/grigri, and water bottle/packable jacket Depending on how much your climbing. I also like the trick where I have one or two double lengths over the opposite shoulder, doubled up with a carabiner and under the Super quick to adjust to your desired length for the belay and when you're taking apart the anchor you just slide the clove off, throw your anchor on your harness and get going. This will keep the sling full strength and provide extra protection at the thumb BD believes in the fixed length sling and they have some engineering rationale for that, but I think it’s 100% a personal preference choice. 5-6 meters) of webbing can provide you with versatility in constructing anchors. Get a 20ft length and then pick any of the acceptable knots to tie the two ends together. If you have anymore questions let me know. a girthed single length sling two girthed single length slings a girthed double length sling a girthed double length sling with a knot. Members Online • i prefer a double length sling Reply reply illegalsmile27 You'll need long-ish slings, and I'd suggest 1" tubular webbing tied with a water knot, vs. Generally recommended to replace soft goods (nylon/dyneema cord, slings, etc. Also, any PAS or personal tether is generally girth hitched, not attached with a carabiner so you only need 2 not 3 (in some cases 1 but then you give up redundancy). Its jus so easy to go "clip-clip-clip-PullDown-MasterpointKnot-Done" and I always carry a few extra double length slings in case of something like having to build a four or five piece anchor. Front sling attachment point should be on the inside (facing towards your body) as far forward on the handguard as you’re able. Depends on your local climbing area. 0 coins. They were sold out on nylon slings, so i bought a dyneema sling. I always carry prussik cord with me when climbing outdoors, because I like the option to go hands free on rappel, and have anchor building material. Remember you can also cut some cost by slinging single length slings with biner over your shoulder for cam placements. Personally, I have a 7mm, 6mm, and 240mm sling in my closet since I like variety and they're inexpensive as far as trad climbing gear goes. my usual go-to is a dyneema quad length sling because of its compactness and low weight but there are times when things are easier with a cordelette or the rope. Go to climbing r/climbing • by robwatson9o. For top roping, you can buy about 40 ft. Very versatile edit for clarity: The smaller your friction knot diameter is the more it Bites. A 60cm sling would only extend your rappel about 5" from your belay loop after the girth hitch through the tie-ins and the knot in the middle. Make sure you know what the triangle of death is before considering to use quick draws for anchors. If 10 feet extension from each bolt isn't enough and you are on the correct route, before If the pieces are far from each other, I might build a mini anchor (sliding X) on 2 of the pieces w/ a double length sling to extend them a bit. to a locker on each bolt and tie a BFK. I've been leading indoors for a few months and I'm super pumped about doing some sport outdoors. 8mm and just ordered a Black Diamond Positron Quickpack (12cm slings). Most people I know use a sling or two to clip into the anchor setup. Use this for gear anchors, tree anchors and so forth Also get a couple double length slings for tied off anchors. Otherwise use a master point (an 8 is better than an overhand if you have the slack, easier to untie). Skip to main content. I find a short hollowblock or similar sized cord is about the max length I want when I’m using the midpoint knot for my belay device with my third hand off my belay loop. Alpines are only for nuts and although It happens I hate extending them because putting them back, I think is a pain. Its stronger to connect 2 slings with a carabiner or use a long sling, but it doesn't strike me as that silly of a thing to do as long as you know the outcome. My slings all have one carabiner and I use cams racking biner for the other side. I would not use a dynamically equalizing system in a belay. Slings also come in different widths, and they have a lot of uses in climbing. are all fair game here. Its intended use is as a replacement for a commonly used length of cordelette that is tied in a loop and used to build anchors with. I am Say I get to the chains of a sport route and find a comfortable stance to set my rappel, but the only soft gear I have with me is a 120cm sling that is too long to use as an anchor. The PAS for starters can be replaced with a double length sling taking the price from ~$30 to ~$9. Members Online. BD merely used what nylon they had in stock that wasn’t “too outdated” for $10/cam. (🇮🇳-🏍️) Place for all Indian riders to discuss news, reviews and motorcycle trips. As a general guideline, having at least 15-20 feet (4. ) are a useful Our climbing testers have put these slings to the test on giant alpine routes in the Bugaboos, huge classic multi-pitch routes in Red Rocks, and on many fun days on the rocks in between, assessing and rating them along the If you’re considering slings for hanging a ring to a hard point, I usually carry at least one single length and one double. If you notice in the link it refers to sport climbing as well as mountaineering. All my alpine draws are dynema and my favourite piece of rack is my quad length dynema sling. Thinking about getting a tag line for full length rappels and there is not a lot of clear info on the topic online. Realized when I got home that I was taught to not tie knots in a dyneema sling. I made the wrong assumption that it would be 4 feet in a loop but it’s 4 feet one direction and 4 feet back. We are climbing on the bottom chord of the truss, and the top chord is a round tube that can be wrapped with a tape sling--I think that's the pick off point we'd choose for rescue. Because sandstone climbing usually involves a lot of sand at the base of the climb, which ends up in the rope, which turns the rope into A basic trad rack might include 12 single-length slings, 4 to 6 double-length slings and 2 triples (or 2 cordelettes) for the anchors. Some areas may have bolted anchors that are easily accessible, in which case you'll just need slings and some more biners. com but the gist of it is: Absolutely no metal gear allowed on the rock, only textiles. Or check it out in the app stores So currently I use a pre built quad with a 120cm sling for sport climbing. Premium Powerups Explore Gaming. Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit Home. Indian Bikes Reddit community. Equalization is a myth - especially dynamic While in the pack to-and-from the crag, I take all the shoulder length slings and stack them together and tie a big overhand knot in the middle with them. Sounds complicated, and like you carry too many alpines. The problem with learning to tie a single type of anchor such as your pre-tied quad is that you lack the fundamentals to adapt to a different scenario (in this case, your need to extend the anchor) efficiently. Agreed on weight, though. 3M subscribers in the climbing community. In a girth hitch they were like 300,000ish pounds. Therefore since the protection will pull out at a force far below the breaking strength of your sling, the sling will NEVER feel enough force to snap. Very unlikely of course. When cleaning routes with bolted anchors its a lot easier to clip in using a PAS or sling than it is messing with a clove hitch while trying to clean the anchor and the rap/lower off. All in all the draw weighs in at 60 grams. At ~5 bucks a sling you can get 10 for 50 and be set for a normal rack. I use shoulder length slings (red in mammut, yellow in petzl/everyone else) and store a couple on my harness in alpine draw style and store a couple over Single length dyneema sling with a sliding-x is what I use. A small sling girth hitched toa bigger sling has cut the big sling, but I have only had to use the two 30s together once when the hangers were removed from a set of anchors and had to sling a block that was well back from the edge of the climb. I'm looking at a 10mm thick 60/100cm long sling. I would make them longer and the "power point" shorter. The more of the gun the sling covers, the more stable it will be when you need to shoot sling supported. . What should my next quickdraw purchases be? Individuals with different lengths of webbing? The only concern I have is the length of the bunny ears. shoulder lengths (1 locker apiece), 2 sport draws, 25' of cordelette, at least one of the dbl shoulder slings from knotted tube webbing. I wouldn't normally carry a bunch of 6 mm cord otherwise, so it's lighter and simpler to use the stuff I also really like to keep 1 or 2 lengths of cord, still 6 mm, About the same loop length of a shoulder length sling because I could use that as an Emergency runner if I need to. From the guy who brought you the Bachmann knot, this variation of the Klemhiest Hedden Knot has great holding power and is The home of Climbing on reddit. 2020-05-06T11:26:43+00:00 By John Brewer | View Larger Image; Cord is helpful for producing custom-length slings, like a cordelette, that may be utilised in anchor structure or in friction Just don't go climbing over it full length, and falling directly on it (although it could probably take that). They tend to be more versatile and durable than dyneema slings, and they are cheap enough to The force is distributed over the length of the sling/cord, so the longer the cord the more it can withstand. In a basket hitch, the rated working load was like 1. So slings threaded through so called hour The only issue I can see with making your own is if you make a normal length sling, and double it so it's shorter as a quick-draw, there might be some hanky panky if you're trying to extend it to the regular length by unclipping the biner, clipping 1 strand and then pulling. Hey all, Looking at purchasing slings to make my own alpine/extendable draws. All-road, crossover, gravel, monster-cross, road-plus, supple tires, steel frames, vintage bikes, hybrids, commuting, bike touring, bikepacking, fatbiking, single-speeds, fixies, Frankenbikes with ragbag parts and specs, etc. Valheim You won't ever get a static stop of fall-factor 2 with only a sling unless you climb the full length of the sling above your anchor and fall the full length down with no rope in the system. It also gives you a dynamic element in the case of catching a fall onto the anchor. right Sling lengths or draws to keep your line straight etc. I still carry a double length nylon for a person anchor or if I need something maybe a bit more abrasion resistant. A single can work over most 4x6 rigs but is often tight to do with 1 beaner. You're better off with the rope cloved to the other bolt. Good luck! If shoulder or double length slings aren't long enough, use your untied cordalette instead. Factors like the type of climbing, the length and type of route, the rock and character of the climbing area and your personal climbing style all play a role in how you set up your rack. Rappel Length: You'll also need to consider the length of rappels on the routes you're climbing. The benefits of a clean nose carabiner really make a difference on bolts. Lengths: 12" (25. The effective rope length is then the entire length from the climber to the belay device. If there is not good beta for the route than bring 1 draw for every 5m on the longest pitch plus a few extras. To compare, a 60cm loop of dynamic material will give a negligible amount of stretch to soften a fall and isn't worth the increase in bulk and I usually have a handful of alpine draws on me for use throughout the climb anyways. sewn runners. On the way down I use a double length sling with an overhand tied somewhere below middle using the extended rappel/personal anchor combo. As an aside I don't think anyone outside of totally new climbers pay full price for slings. Slings and runners generally come in single and double sizes, with the single length being at least 2-3 times longer than the average quick 240mm dyneema/nylon sling is also great, especially if you're not worried about complicated belay stations. Those slings aren’t nearly long enough to reduce angles enough. Accessory cord is traditionally made of nylon just like your As you lean one way or another, the length between your prussik and device shortens. This is just like setting a two bolt anchor except with your harness at the master point. For most of my alpine draws I use the standard 60cm slings (single length slings), and I also often carry one or two 120 cm slings for when I'm trying to reduce rope drag from a placement that creates an angle in the rope. I tend to use slings or cord when leading in blocks and use the rope when swinging leads. That said, I keep a couple of nylon slings on me (usually one 60cm and one 120cm) as they are nicer for building anchors, extending your rappel, etc. of tubular 1" webbing and cut it into lengths to make you own double length, or even larger, tied slings. Pretty light and plenty of length. Alpine: lightweight, thin slings and wire gates everywhere. Keep slack out of your static anchors. I wouldn't actually whip on this, only use it for rappelling or possibly glacier travel. They are designed to be carried on your harness gear loops just like a normal quickdraw, which gives you quick and easy access to shoulder length slings. To reduce the friction, or drag, created by the rope as it runs throug Longer slings are more effective at reducing rope drag than a quickdraw, but are also heavier and bulkier. Dyneema slings are great for setting up anchors, slinging things for protection etc. Holy shit it's so nice for anchors. I would get 6x sling draws, cheapest and lightest you can find, 6x wiregate quickdraws, lightest and cheapest you can find, and 6x sport quickdraws with beefy dogbones and solid It's safe but unnecessary. A sling is a made of a section of strong nylon webbing sewn together in a loop. This is my preferred method. if the longest pitch is 40m bring 10. This is an adventure-biking sub dedicated to the vast world that exists between ultralight road racing and technical singletrack. I don't mess with alpine draws at all because almost all of my placements are cams and if I extend those placements, I always use a full 60cm sling to do so. Two reasons: 1)If the bolts are spaced further apart it is possible to create an obtuse triangle between the knot, creating greater forces at the knot and on the bolts. If it’s really wandery I’ll extend even further with either a single-length or (rarely) with a double-length sling. I extend my cam placements with 60cm slings racked over-the-shoulder with a single carabiner clipped in. The retailer I buy off is only offering either 8mm or 11mm in width. Dyneema has very little stretch and falling with a dyneema sling attached to an anchor can generate a massive amount of force, sometimes enough to break the sling. This is probably mostly a climbing myth perpetuated by the article that's quoted in the above link The home of Climbing on reddit. If you want a full set of light trad/alpine sling- and quickdraws for cheap I warmly recommend looking for sales of rack packs of light biners (CAMP NANO, Edelrid 19G etc), 60cm dyneema slings and 17cm Petzl Ange S/L or BD OZ Whether one uses the climbing rope itself or a dedicated length of cord is a personal choice and also depends on the circumstances. The home of Climbing on reddit. You can usually get them 40% off if you shop the sales. Also make sure you understand the various sling tension / sling angle configurations and use what is best for your given situation. Dyneema is way better for alpine draws. Uneven leg lengths should be adjusted using as much low-stretch material as possible, a doubled or tripled Spectra/Dyneema sling being fairly low stretch Hm, I find in trad climbing that if the good gear placements are any significant distance away from each other that it's not really adequate to just have slings (even double length slings). Single-length slings (60cm/24 in. A couple small lockers for the bolts and a big locker and matching oval non locker for master point is what I use if I want a super bomber top rope with said tied What size slings and how many each do you like having set aside for trad anchors? Or do you prefer cordelette? And why. I use a 240 centimeter sling for trad anchors and it works for many different types of anchors as well as being lighter than the same amount of cord. For multipitch where you don't want to be humping your partner at a belay station, this length is a bit nicer, let's you move around a bit. and then use regular single sling length loops for rescue applications, etc. View community ranking In the Top 1% Had a fun and easy 6-pitch climb on the Falkenstein in the Elbe Sandstone region here in Saxony with 2 of my friends. Thread it through your tie in points, then tie an overhand. I recently got a Tusk Superdry 9. There have been zero situations in my climbing career where I found myself wishing for the extendable sling feature. The most common use of slings is while leading trad pitches, where you must place protection wherever you can find it, which may not be in a perfectly straight line. Looking for feedback on whether this design is flawed. 6 cm) or, 20" (50 The home of Climbing on reddit. 240 cm is the biggest standard sewn sling size and is the perfect amount of material for a quad. I carry a few alpine draws when I climb sport, but Available in three lengths and with color coded slings; these long draws are made up of two Bravo carabiners joined by an 11 mm Monster Sling. And yes, you can tie knots in it in and no it won't break (for any normal anchor building application). I am using a webbing sling loop in a basket (pic attached) to move the ascender far enough away from my body that I can use the tail of the rope to body thrust up the line (and auto tend slack). Now imagine the opposite case of zero friction. Item Description Number Cost Link Rope Edelweiss Rocklight II Climbing Rope - 9. Ropes, I generally expect between 6 months to 2 years. 4 cm), 16" (40. For an alpine rack I would carry less cams, more nuts, some 60cm alpine qd and two 120cm slings with biners clipped end to end around chest. Go back to rei and find the climbing section where they cut rope to length. The mid knot is what I rap off and the end loop is for clipping in. Reddit . Also, if you really don't trust the bolts you shouldn't be climbing on them. Does that only apply to when it can be shock loaded? My extended rappel setup is as follows: Halve the sling through the belay loop on the harness 2) Tie a knot, half, 8, whatever in the middle 30 meters seems like a lot of material for an anchor considering most ropes for climbing are 60-70m. Climbing slings are exactly that, used for rock climbing and don't have a safety factor applied to their ratings. You’ll figure it out, you just need a better understanding of the basics. I carry 4 alpines (Ya it's different) and slings over my shoulder for cams. For situations that will put a lot of abuse on gear, like top rope anchors or multi-pitch anchors, I like cordelette or tied nylon runners. If you must use a sling through a thumb loop, connect it as a BASKET HITCH. I carry 4-6 25cm quickdraws for clipping nuts/tricams/bolts. 1. Favorite sling is the Mammut Contact 8mm as its stitching is snag free. I replace my draw slings every 5 years, the biners will last until they look worn (expect 10 years of fair use at least). You could also girth the sling to your Think of it this way: A straight pull has 2 "lengths" of nylon sling supporting load. Reddit India Climbing slings are also known as runners. Take a couple lengths of sewn slings up with you so you can just clip without fiddling and adjusting lengths. Additionally, the length should allow you to extend the rappel anchor away from any potential rope drag or hazards. In my opinion, the only reason to use a sliding x is if you're climbing multiple routes on the same anchors and need the direction of pull to change. I, personally, LOVE using a cordalette (or triple length sling). The “right” answer is that you’ll probably love both. a purcell prusik a cordelette Basically: use what you have. Or two singles. This is how I thought it would work with my 9. Different quantities/lengths of cord or sling. Harness isn't bulky but holds a lot of gear and is padded enough to be comfortable on multi pitch. Tbh neither is a sling, because nylon and dyneema slings won’t handle even factor 1 falls (edit: when no For the Dragons I either use them as they are (in extended mode), or extend just using a regular quickdraw about 80% of the time (extended mode plus a quickdraw already gives about 50cm of extension). You should always have a sling just in case so you can manufacture something more appropriate if needed. for slings the bare minimum i'l have in my pack is: 8 shoulder lengths (2 with light weight lockers), 2-4 dbl. 8 singles and 2 doubles is a pretty good and common setup, although 6 single and 2 doubles would be pretty reasonable, also, considering that you're also getting The home of Climbing on reddit. girth hitching loses minimum of 50% of sling strength (when used on a biner, when used on something skinner, like a thumb loop of a cam, it will lose even more strength). For an all-around sling, go with 120cm nylon. Those are obviously only half the length of the 240s I don't know why people are feeding you a bunch of ridiculous information in this thread. I prefer the mental comfort of not using a largely dyneema sling (DONT JUDGE ME BEARBREEDER), so I use this sling, rather than this dynex/dyneema (basically the same thing) sling. And yes we are scared of falling. On two bolts I usually clove to the master point of a knotted double length sling. prurk xnvbh dphsuvb gzluj gsii qstf hxmh sflebsh sjeoqi rrqs vwrdwx dro enpwo gpgse idqqedk